QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by mayo49:
A lesser expensive team doesn't mean it's going to be a lesser talented team. Your assuming, which not good.

So overpay just because? We should make Dre the highest paid LBer as well, right?

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by RJ_MacReady:
Paying Brock big money is a huge mistake. Why not just let him play out his contract and then decide?

Because if he kills it next year, he's going to be even more expensive. Duh?

Let the market decide what his worth is. Teams aren't lining up to sign Brock or trade for him. Why should SF be force to pay him whatever he wants?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
A lesser expensive team doesn't mean it's going to be a lesser talented team. Your assuming, which not good.

So overpay just because? We should make Dre the highest paid LBer as well, right?

He'd just be the currently high paid LB if you choose to do that. See, the goal post is constantly changing. Your not adding that to the equation.

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I mean objectively we should all agree he's better than Jimmy.

He's a solid starting QB in the NFL imo. he's gonna be massively overpaid and that's the problem.

You always advocate players maximizing their market value without repercussions......you were never concerned about overpaying players.....like BA...

SF let the market decide what BA's worth is…why can't they do the same with Brock?

tell me a team that's gonna give up top end draft capital and pay Brock $250M? None that's who. BA had multiple teams lining up to do that.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by RJ_MacReady:
Paying Brock big money is a huge mistake. Why not just let him play out his contract and then decide?

Our big mistakes are the Deebo, Aiyuk and Hargrave contracts. Overpaying for a good qb isn't a mistake. It's incredibly hard to find a good qb. Teams go 30 years sometimes without a qb. Could be John and Kyle if they didn't luck out with the last pick

Our biggest mistake was missing on Lance. Otherwise, we won't be in this situation.

The entire QB classes in 2021 AND 2022 were busts besides Purdy. Taking someone else over Lance wouldn't have done anything.

If Lance had been doing everything Purdy has done we'd all be saying he's the franchise guy. There is a crazy perspective shift when a QB gets drafted late vs in the 1st round. Nobody would be crapping on Purdy's 2nd year starter growing pains if he had been selected 3rd overall.

Oh, so I got it now. I'm wrong, our biggest mistake wasn't drafting Lance, it was hiring Shanny and Lynch.

You don't like going to the NFC championship game 4 times in 5 years?

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by RJ_MacReady:
Paying Brock big money is a huge mistake. Why not just let him play out his contract and then decide?

Our big mistakes are the Deebo, Aiyuk and Hargrave contracts. Overpaying for a good qb isn't a mistake. It's incredibly hard to find a good qb. Teams go 30 years sometimes without a qb. Could be John and Kyle if they didn't luck out with the last pick

Our biggest mistake was missing on Lance. Otherwise, we won't be in this situation.

The entire QB classes in 2021 AND 2022 were busts besides Purdy. Taking someone else over Lance wouldn't have done anything.

If Lance had been doing everything Purdy has done we'd all be saying he's the franchise guy. There is a crazy perspective shift when a QB gets drafted late vs in the 1st round. Nobody would be crapping on Purdy's 2nd year starter growing pains if he had been selected 3rd overall.

Oh, so I got it now. I'm wrong, our biggest mistake wasn't drafting Lance, it was hiring Shanny and Lynch.

You don't like going to the NFC championship game 4 times in 5 years?

With this regime, yes. But, don't like feeling like we should getten two Super Bowls out of it. Hence, Shanny and Lynchy rhetorical.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I mean objectively we should all agree he's better than Jimmy.

He's a solid starting QB in the NFL imo. he's gonna be massively overpaid and that's the problem.

You always advocate players maximizing their market value without repercussions......you were never concerned about overpaying players.....like BA...

SF let the market decide what BA's worth is…why can't they do the same with Brock?

tell me a team that's gonna give up top end draft capital and pay Brock $250M? None that's who. BA had multiple teams lining up to do that.

Purdy would be a definite upgrade at QB for 12+ teams. Fans forget so quickly how bad QB play can get, and how hard it is to find a good one. If we don't pay Purdy fair market value, someone else will. All letting him hit the open market would accomplish is drive up the bidding, risk him increasing his value in 2025, and show him we don't really believe in him.

Crocker talked about this today and he's on point.

we all talk about arm strength and the lack of it from Brock. In this system you don't need a cannon to make everything work. It's all rhythm and timing stuff. It only really shows up when you need it…. When he's late on a read and you need the ball there now. That out route to JJ on 3rd down was a perfect example of you only need it when you need it.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Crocker talked about this today and he's on point.

we all talk about arm strength and the lack of it from Brock. In this system you don't need a cannon to make everything work. It's all rhythm and timing stuff. It only really shows up when you need it…. When he's late on a read and you need the ball there now. That out route to JJ on 3rd down was a perfect example of you only need it when you need it.

That's crock, Montana had a pop gun and won is 3 Championships.

Originally posted by Niners99:
Purdy would be a definite upgrade at QB for 12+ teams. Fans forget so quickly how bad QB play can get, and how hard it is to find a good one. If we don't pay Purdy fair market value, someone else will. All letting him hit the open market would accomplish is drive up the bidding, risk him increasing his value in 2025, and show him we don't really believe in him.

Name me a team that would be lining up to give SF the compensation for a young QB that's gonna want $250M?

If he was a FA you think teams would be lining up to make him the highest paid player in football? Who would be doing that? I totally disagree with you there.

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

I mean objectively we should all agree he's better than Jimmy.

He's a solid starting QB in the NFL imo. he's gonna be massively overpaid and that's the problem.

You always advocate players maximizing their market value without repercussions......you were never concerned about overpaying players.....like BA...

SF let the market decide what BA's worth is…why can't they do the same with Brock?

tell me a team that's gonna give up top end draft capital and pay Brock $250M? None that's who. BA had multiple teams lining up to do that.

Purdy would be a definite upgrade at QB for 12+ teams. Fans forget so quickly how bad QB play can get, and how hard it is to find a good one. If we don't pay Purdy fair market value, someone else will. All letting him hit the open market would accomplish is drive up the bidding, risk him increasing his value in 2025, and show him we don't really believe in him.

I just think letting teams decide the market isn't a full proof way of making the right decision

Teams thought he wasn't worth a draft pick a couple years ago. Can't let them dictate our decisions

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Niners99:
Purdy would be a definite upgrade at QB for 12+ teams. Fans forget so quickly how bad QB play can get, and how hard it is to find a good one. If we don't pay Purdy fair market value, someone else will. All letting him hit the open market would accomplish is drive up the bidding, risk him increasing his value in 2025, and show him we don't really believe in him.

Name me a team that would be lining up to give SF the compensation for a young QB that's gonna want $250M?

If he was a FA you think teams would be lining up to make him the highest paid player in football? Who would be doing that? I totally disagree with you there.

The Jets would do it, they'd do anything.

Originally posted by mayo49:
With this regime, yes. But, hate more not getting two Super Bowls out of it. Hence, Shanny and Lynchy rhetorical.

Option B wasn't winning 2+ SB's, it was not getting anywhere near 4 nfc championship games, which is where 95% of the NFL usually sits. Kyle has his flaws. He's stubborn and arrogant, and makes bad game management choices in big moments, but he's the reason we get there in the first place. We're better off hoping he learns from past mistakes than starting over with the next coaching hire, who have about a 2-3 year shelf life in the NFL.

Every time we throw out a good coach over some elitist "We win SB's here, you aren't good enough" BS, we end up toiling in the dregs of the league afterwards. We fired Mooch because he wasn't getting us over the top. Ended up with Dennis Erickson, Mike Nolan, and Mike Singletary. We fired Harbaugh, and ended up with Jim Tomsula and Chip Kelly. If we dump Shanahan we'll be right back in that same situation.

Originally posted by mayo49:
That's crock, Montana had a pop gun and won is 3 Championships.

That was 30+ years ago. His arm was better than Brock's he was as accurate as you could be and had the clutch gene. Brock hasn't been clutch at all.

Originally posted by mayo49:
The Jets would do it, they'll do anything.

No they wouldn't. There is no teams that are gonna give up legit compensation and pay him Dak money. Why is that? Because he's not worth that.